Flash cart development

Started by arfink, August 10, 2010, 01:39:11 pm

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botulismo

The Uninvited Gremlin made me aware of this. I'm looking forward to it. I'll definitely be interested in a famicom version. I'll also do a review for my blog, as this is one of my areas of interest. :D I'm assuming aside from any internal differences, the NES version and the famicom version operate differently?

It'll be nice to have one dedicated for the famicom rather than have to use an adapter with a PowerPak, which is what I was about to buy instead.

I've been looking for a list of games that use MMC + UNROM. So far, the best I could find is http://tuxnes.sourceforge.net/nesmapper.txt, but it would nice to just see what one could play with it, rather than seeing every single game.

Anyway, great work, and I'll be paying attention.
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UglyJoe

Quote from: botulismo on November 09, 2010, 05:05:48 pm
I've been looking for a list of games that use MMC + UNROM. So far, the best I could find is http://tuxnes.sourceforge.net/nesmapper.txt, but it would nice to just see what one could play with it, rather than seeing every single game.


Here's the tuxnes list sorted by mapper.  Keep in mind that the list is incomplete.  Also keep in mind that I'm not affiliated with the Munchausen cart, so this is in no way an official list of "games that work with the cart."

http://ximwix.net/storage/tuxnes.html

botulismo

Quote from: UglyJoe on November 09, 2010, 07:40:20 pm
Quote from: botulismo on November 09, 2010, 05:05:48 pm
I've been looking for a list of games that use MMC + UNROM. So far, the best I could find is http://tuxnes.sourceforge.net/nesmapper.txt, but it would nice to just see what one could play with it, rather than seeing every single game.


Here's the tuxnes list sorted by mapper.  Keep in mind that the list is incomplete.  Also keep in mind that I'm not affiliated with the Munchausen cart, so this is in no way an official list of "games that work with the cart."

http://ximwix.net/storage/tuxnes.html


I understand completely, and I'm sure there will be some bugs even within the supported mappers. Still, this is a great list and it gives me a far easier time getting a firm grasp on what the cartridge should theoretically be able to play. Thanks!


I sort of like the idea of a budget cartridge that's compatible with a good chunk, but not all, of the cartridges. Some people on the thread seem to think that there isn't a market for something like this because of the PowerPak. People forget that the PowerPak is far out of the price range of a lot of people, and that's basically the only other contender in the market. Even if you suggested the PowerPak Lite, it together with the programmer is $108! $50 looks and sounds more realistic especially for the average person who just wants to use it occasionally.
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arfink

November 10, 2010, 11:14:16 am #33 Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 11:19:35 am by arfink
Well, if you want to know exactly what will run on the cartridge, here is a list:

MMC1 games that will work: (MMC1 mapper chip, 8kb CHR RAM, up to 8kb SRAM, up to 256kb PRG ROM)
http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/search.php?ines_op=%3D%60%40%60&ines=1&vram_op=%3D%60%40%60&vram=8&wram_op=%3C%3D%60%40%60&wram=8&field=2&order=asc

Just keep in mind that if it uses CHR RAM and it's MMC1 it will likely work. So far none I have tried didn't work. If you have a specific request you'd like me to try on the beta carts, let me know and I'll try it out.

NROM games that will work:

NES games:
http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/search.php?pcb_op=LIKE+%60%25%40%25%60&pcb=nes-nrom&field=2&order=asc

Famicom games:
http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/search.php?pcb_op=LIKE+%60%25%40%25%60&pcb=hvc-nrom&field=2&order=asc

Keep in mind this NROM list is probably incomplete as well, as it wouldn't include any NROM pirates, etc.

As far as compatibility goes, I haven't even got close to testing all those on the beta carts, but nothing has failed so far. Seeing as it's a real MMC1 in there I highly doubt there will be issues with the games on the list. As for NROM games, there are no compatibility issues at runtime, though occasionally there are some slight glitches if you start pressing the reset button really fast like a madman. :)

NintendoKing

November 10, 2010, 11:18:07 am #34 Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 11:25:35 am by The Uninvited Gremlin
Thats a very nice list of compatibility, nobody should ever complain about this Flashcart, with a list that large.

arfink

Just make sure you look again, I had to edit that post because my initial NROM list accidentally included all mappers which included "NROM" in the name, including UNROM, CNROM etc. and those aren't actually supposed to be on there.

NintendoKing

Even with the correction, 323 games is a substantial amount supported; I could definitely enjoy going through the lists. ;D

botulismo

November 10, 2010, 03:32:42 pm #37 Last Edit: November 12, 2010, 07:12:50 pm by botulismo
Quote from: arfink on November 10, 2010, 11:14:16 am

Just keep in mind that if it uses CHR RAM and it's MMC1 it will likely work. So far none I have tried didn't work. If you have a specific request you'd like me to try on the beta carts, let me know and I'll try it out.



The list was a big help, first of all. Thanks for that! I suppose I'll go ahead and ask for two for compatibility check. Two games: Ultima: Warriors of Destiny + Maniac Mansion. Both of them the US versions.

Also, I'm not really sure how the hardware works, but since there's nothing confusing like on the PC Engine where all the pins on Japanese region games are the opposite of Turbografx 16 games, that region does not matter? I experienced some issues with a PC Engien flash cartridge I own where that was relevant, though thankfully I have a PC Engine modified with a switch that lets me go between Japan and US.

I'm assuming that a US ROM would play on a Famicom version of the cartridge on a Famicom, or that a Japanese ROM would play on a NES version of the cartridge. I never experienced any issue with my PowerPak, though I can't say I know how that works either.

ADDED 11/12/10: Also, arfink, I was wondering if you had a webpage for this? I was thinking of making a news post on my blog about this cartridge and if you had a page, I'd like to link to it. If not, I can use the two threads for source links instead.

Thanks again!


Quote from: The Uninvited Gremlin on November 10, 2010, 11:24:38 am
Even with the correction, 323 games is a substantial amount supported; I could definitely enjoy going through the lists. ;D


It is a good amount of games. Enough to provide plenty of enjoyment. I'm surprised how many RPGs are included on the list. The only genre that the list seems to lack that I'd like to see is shooters, though if I'm missing something on that list, feel free to point it out.
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botulismo

Did Arfink die? Anyone have any news on this cartridge? :o
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NintendoKing

It's still in beta testing phases, should get an update soon.

arfink

Yes, I died!

Lol, no, I just got a real job and things slowed down a bit while Blargg and I took a break for the holidays. Never fear, beta is near. I am finishing the last of the hardware units to send to beta testers.

botulismo

Hooray! I've been looking forward to this greatly.  ;D
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NintendoKing

I have been dying to have my hands on a Munchausen ever since you arrived here for the first time ARFink.

ATARI7800


satoshi_matrix

what's with all the talk of death in this thread? ;D