The downfall of PES (PES 2008)

[FamicomRetroGamer]

PES 2008 was where Konami commenced to fail to produce a realistic football simulator, and instead an arcade robotic football game.

Before that, PES 2004/2005 and 2006 were (and are), got to say PES 2005 gameplay's much better than PES 2011, it feels smooth and not robotic.

PES 2008 players run like robots till this day (PES 2011), I've lost my hope that Konami would go back, but that's not happening. They've sticked to robots and that's how it is from here to forward.

So, the best football simulator now is FIFA, more specifically FIFA 11, it allows to play 11v11 and be a goalkeeper (full liberty), plus other improvements.

Very disappointed with PES 2011, did not like a bit.

[son_ov_hades]

It's called soccer, football is different sport. 

[FamicomRetroGamer]

"Soccer" is incorrect.

Football is the correct term, "soccer" is outdated and only Americans and Asians actually use it.

Don't tell me how my favourite sport is called!

What Americans play is handball or rugby (ends up being the same), football is playing ball with the feet.

FIFA means:

Federation
International
Football (See it's not "soccer" but football!)
Association

You might not want to call it "soccer" when you're in front of other real football fans. They can be aggressive.

[ericj]

You might not want to call it " handball or rugby " when you're in front of other real [American] football fans. They can be aggressive.

Fixed.

In the USA, not many people care about your football/soccer, and even fewer care about discussing the words used to describe it.

[FamicomRetroGamer]

You might not want to call it " handball or rugby " when you're in front of other real [American] football fans. They can be aggressive.

Fixed.

In the USA, not many people care about your football/soccer, and even fewer care about discussing the words used to describe it.

Not many? LOL, that's funny.

Go to Europe: Spain, Portugal, England, France, Italy and you'll see how bad they love it.

Brazil has most potential tho.

Rarely anyone gives a crap about American football/rugby, to be honest, none do.

[nintendodork]

In the USA, not many people care about your football/soccer, and even fewer care about discussing the words used to describe it.

Please actually read his answer.

[ericj]

Rarely anyone [outside of the USA] gives a crap about American football/rugby, to be honest, none do.

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[son_ov_hades]

"Soccer" is incorrect.

Football is the correct term, "soccer" is outdated and only Americans and Asians actually use it.

Don't tell me how my favourite sport is called!

What Americans play is handball or rugby (ends up being the same), football is playing ball with the feet.

FIFA means:

Federation
International
Football (See it's not "soccer" but football!)
Association

You might not want to call it "soccer" when you're in front of other real football fans. They can be aggressive.

I was just joking with you man.  Oh and I was in Europe this summer and made the same joke in Germany, mind you this was during the world cup and Germany was playing Serbia and losing. The Germans around didn't think it was very funny at first, but once they understood that I wasn't some arrogant asshole American they actually had a good laugh. And people say Germans don't have a sense of humor.