behold the legendary rgb nes!

Started by Drakon, November 15, 2010, 04:37:40 pm

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shoggoth80

I asked if there was another way to do the mod without the Playchoice, not because I care about the Playchoice... but because a)I think the RGB output looks SWEET, and b) I do not have a Playchoice board to cannibalize (sort of). The thing is, if the mod is not a permanent one, there is really no harm done either way. I think it would be a cool custom mod to build a sweet case to put an RGB modded NES into. It's not like there is a shortage of NES consoles out there. Not like I have a shortage of consoles.... I think I have 5 or so, not including clones. Would make a fun project, and I have a buddy who is good with electronics... and likes to tinker. Also, our TV has an RGB input... Therefore, I am naturally curious.  ;D

UglyJoe

The PPU in the Sharp Famicom Titler allows for an RGB mod, but those are rarer than the PC10, afaik.

Drakon

Quote from: shoggoth80 on November 19, 2010, 09:36:58 pm
I asked if there was another way to do the mod without the Playchoice, not because I care about the Playchoice... but because a)I think the RGB output looks SWEET, and b) I do not have a Playchoice board to cannibalize (sort of). The thing is, if the mod is not a permanent one, there is really no harm done either way. I think it would be a cool custom mod to build a sweet case to put an RGB modded NES into. It's not like there is a shortage of NES consoles out there. Not like I have a shortage of consoles.... I think I have 5 or so, not including clones. Would make a fun project, and I have a buddy who is good with electronics... and likes to tinker. Also, our TV has an RGB input... Therefore, I am naturally curious.  ;D


yeah unfortunately the nes ppu doesn't output rgb.  The only nes compatible ppus that output rgb and are made by nintendo are the semi rare playchoice ppus or the ppu from vs duck hunt or vs tennis.  There's no way of doing this mod without one of these semi rare ppus because the regular nes ppus mix the signal into composite video internally.  That's why a rgb nes is pretty rare.  You can pick up a playchoice board on ebay and it's a totally fun project if you know what you're doing.  I prefer to clip the pins from the regular nes ppu instead of desoldering it just so I don't run the risk of ruining the ppu traces.  Also the regular nes ppus are so cheap and easy to find it's not a huge loss destroying one.

amurphy245

I take it the playchoice ppu wont work in the famicom,you need the titler chip for that?

shoggoth80

Sounds like I might have to keep my eyes open! IF I do happen across a Play Choice, I'll likely want to find a way to do a really neat case mod to match it. If you're gonna go custom, ya might as well go big, right?  ;D

Drakon

Quote from: amurphy245 on November 21, 2010, 10:57:08 am
I take it the playchoice ppu wont work in the famicom,you need the titler chip for that?


playchoice ppu will work just fine on a famicom.  Titler chip is basically the same thing as the playchoice chip from what I read about it.  I've installed one of these playchoice ppus in a famicom and it worked fine.

Quote from: shoggoth80 on November 21, 2010, 05:02:16 pm
Sounds like I might have to keep my eyes open! IF I do happen across a Play Choice, I'll likely want to find a way to do a really neat case mod to match it. If you're gonna go custom, ya might as well go big, right?  ;D


I'm doing a commissioned rgb nes mod right now.  Not sure what you mean by a really neat case mod.  But the guy I'm working for right now bought a cheap snes just so I could take the multi av port out of it and install the av port into his rgb nes so you could use a regular snes scart cable with his system.  A bit expensive but a good idea.

amurphy245

Thanks,i was just wondering why everyone is talking about installing the chip into a nes,why would you waste it on a nes when you could put it in a famicom? ah well each to their own lol.

2A03

Quote from: amurphy245 on November 23, 2010, 02:06:32 am
Thanks,i was just wondering why everyone is talking about installing the chip into a nes,why would you waste it on a nes when you could put it in a famicom?

Because the NES has a lot more room inside to work with than the Famicom.

nintendodork

Not to mention if you mess up, there are more NES's lying around than Famicoms. ;)
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Drakon

it works in either the nes or the famicom.  I used the massive amount of space inside of my nes to my advantage.  At this point the method of this mod isn't perfected and plenty of people get "jailbars" on the screen.  Just like this



This problem might be only on the nes.  So I decided to buy a nes just so I could have more fun playing around with how stuff's wired.  I got the jailbars almost completely gone by rewiring my grounds.  They're about 95% gone now.  I recommend that anyone doing this should use a nes.  You get more space to work with and it's a cheaper piece of hardware usually.  And the case is so ugly I love destroying it

cubelmariomadness

QuoteAnd the case is so ugly I love destroying it
:'(

...but that's it's charm!
Sorry folks.

shoggoth80

"Thanks,i was just wondering why everyone is talking about installing the chip into a nes,why would you waste it on a nes when you could put it in a famicom? ah well each to their own lol."
-Because I live in the USA, and have more NES systems than needed, but only one famicom system, and a handful of clones. This generally states that I have more NES games than Famicom games. So, the NES gets more play, more often. Also, the systems are basically the same. The Famicom isn't a wonder system... just a good solid 8-bit gaming system. I try to get games on the Famicom that I can't get for the NES. With all that being said, the Famicom/NES WAS a big deal when it was launched.  ;D