Identifying console

[Tim_nz]

Hi all,
just registered on here, because im in a little need of help identifying my console, i think it MAY be a clone. I have searched all over this site, and even spent at least an hour on google and can't get anything.
the system itself looks excactly like a normal console, except on the front mine says "Family TV game" The underneath on the console has no serial number or anything.
i opened it up to give it a clean out, and to try and do an a/v mod, but the insides are different to any these here : http://famicomworld.com/workshop/tech/square-button-famicom/
It is a PAL console and works as it should, it has only RF and power input on the back.
the second controller has no microphone like i have seen on others.
i suspect the games the came with it may be pirate aswell, because some on them don't have title screens, and the super mario bro's 2 i have wont let me start a game, no matter how many times i bash "start"
any help with this would be greatly appreciated

[petik1]

It's a clone, and those are pirated games. Got any pics?

[Tim_nz]

hopefully images come through alright :/
Might have to open the pics in new tab sorry.

[Algo Fonix]

Yeah, that's definitely a clone.

[Tim_nz]

can't find any infomation on it anywhere, wanted to a/v mod it, also has a broken 2nd controller that constantly goes "left" on the d'pad wanted to replace it.

[security16]

Do you have pics of it's insides?? I know you can get replacement  pads from the internet for the regular famicoms. I'm not sure doing an AV mod is necessary if it works as is but thats just my 5c . You could check out the trade section here for stuff also i'm not sure if proper famicom games will work with the PAL system.

There are alot of great people on here who fix these things who will help you and welcome to the forums  

[Tim_nz]

Dunedin.
Will my clone play any nes games with the pin converter? or be able to use the disk system attachment? or can i only play the pirate games it come with?
Post Merge: December 09, 2011, 08:51:59 pm
thanks for the replies,
heres a photo of the insides :

[BasiliskFang]

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hopefully images come through alright :/
Might have to open the pics in new tab sorry.

fixed

[Tim_nz]

sorry, i didn't register with image shack, so it won't give me direct links.
heres the insides : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/sam0183s.jpg/

[133MHz]

Nice clone! UMC chipset, hybrid PAL mode (NTSC CPU, PAL PPU, no dual xtal?). Seems that it's got the space to install AV jacks.
The UMC UA65xx has incorrect audio but works fine with the Famicom Disk System and MMC5 games.

[petik1]

If you could, take a picture of the other side of the board.

[Tim_nz]

sorry, but what is a MMC5 game?
will this clone function the same as a legit famicom? or does it have some limitations in comparison?
ill take a photo of the other side and post.

[133MHz]

The sound is different, the colors might be a little off, the games will play slower (because of the PAL frame rate) but its software compatibility is much better than many other clones out there.

[Tim_nz]

heres a few photos of other side on board :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/sam0191k.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/sam0189r.jpg/

[133MHz]

Nice. So you want to AV mod it, apparently this was meant to have AV output all along but the necessary components just weren't installed (yay for cost cutting!), there are places for two RCA jacks that would most certainly be Audio & Video.



You could get two of the same type of RCA jack used in the RF output and solder them in there, then populate the missing components (which fortunately have been labeled with their values on the silk-screening of the board), drill two holes in the back for the new jacks to poke through and you should have stock AV output!



Seems like every missing component has been labeled with its value except for the two final DC blocking capacitors, for these you can try 10µF electrolytics with their negatives facing the RCA jacks.