I'm thinking of bidding but I'm scared of it being either a bootleg or only side A of a floppy somehow burned into the ram adapter:
https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/c735501575
What are your thoughts?
HVC-022 Disk Drive Readout device of Disk Card that becomes main of "Disk System". It's put under the family computer. "Disk System" sold since February 21, 1986 for ¥15000.
HVC-TK22EPROM-02 5080 ? IGS would be the game developer. Don't know what it says in japanese.
Yeah it looks like a prototype of the unreleased game Shounen Majutsushi Indy (https://www.unseen64.net/2017/07/10/indy-magical-kid-shounen-majutsushi-nes-cancelled/). I don't think it's an FDS game, as Togemet said they just use RAM adapters to make EPROM development cartridges with. I guess Nintendo had a lot of spare ones that developers could get and repurpose into EPROM carts.
There are only screenshots of the title and name entry screens though, so I guess there is always a chance that it's fake. If it's real, I hope that whoever buys it can get it dumped.
The Japanese pencil text on the label "インディ IGS" is read as "Indy IGS".
I knew I'd seen that logo before - I have the Armadillo II sales flyer featuring the Indy game artwork on it. Seen here:
https://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Indy-Magical-Kid-Shounen-Majutsushi-Famicom-NES-15.jpg
Quote from: togemet2 on May 21, 2019, 10:47:16 pm
It's real. It is a prototype for an unreleased game. It isn't actually anything Disk System related.
The developers just put the board into the FDS RAM case. This is quite a common practise and has been seen other times.
how come this hasn't been dumped yet?
A large group of us is working on acquiring donations for winning this and getting it dumped if anybody is interested please let me or togemet know. Thanks!
Depending on the amount (it's already a bit high), you've got competetion up to a point. I'm going to try and bid on this aswell. (I saw it first and have same intentions with it)
They just added screenshots, so it's pretty much legit giving myself a valid point to bid.
We'd rather not compete with other people trying to preserve it do avoid a needless bidding war. Would you want to combine efforts?
Combining Efforts would be the way to go. But it depends on what I get from it? I wanted to be the first one to show a YouTube video of it. I would dump it with Copynes of the analogier nt mini. Then I can pass it on.
If you want to own it then you can arrange with the group of people working on acquiring it, to buy it afterward they've done what they had to do. You'll have it at a cheaper price atop of that!
Quote from: Elrinth on May 24, 2019, 11:09:05 am
Combining Efforts would be the way to go. But it depends on what I get from it? I wanted to be the first one to show a YouTube video of it. I would dump it with Copynes of the analogier nt mini. Then I can pass it on.
There's already a youtube video of gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLVH2F_z7xM
if you contribute, you spend less, and people will all have an equal chance of creating content once the ROM is released, which it will be as soon as it is dumped.
Besides, only few of us actually speak Japanese. You would have to be able to understand the dialogue to make a meaningful video.
Price is going up and it ain't my fault.
Quote from: Elrinth on May 26, 2019, 03:51:26 am
Price is going up and it ain't my fault.
The listing's ending in almost an hour, if you want this game to be preserved, your best bet is to join forces with us.
Wow it ended at nearly 15K US. Anyone here win it or was it swooped by a mysterious historian?
Nobody here won.
At that price it was almost surely scooped by a hoarder, maybe never to be seen again.
More coverage:
https://twitter.com/forestillusion/status/1132650529354444800
https://famicoms.net/blog-entry-3195.html
A bit expensive for MMC1 game ::)
Well that was extremely sad seeing the comment the buyer made. :'(
My cap was 700k yen. I would sell it at the same price, once I was done dumping it.
In this world, money is king.
Someone should try reach out to the original develop to try and find out if there's any more prototypes or similar and ask if they are interested in either actually releasing it or better dumping it.
Been reading the japanese blog comments, and they're all pretty much going:
"I think it is the correct solution to be buried in the dark because it is a game that should not exist"
Quote from: buyerI will always protect it as a Japanese treasure
Or until it succumbs to bitrot.
Wanting to keep it within the country is understandable, but keeping it from preservation is just evil. >:(
You never know...
Quote from: Elrinth on May 27, 2019, 01:23:18 am
"I think it is the correct solution to be buried in the dark because it is a game that should not exist"
"I think it is correct to leave archaeological treasures in the ground because they should not be discovered"
Totally backwards and unscientific. The game will always exist buddy, just on someone's shelf instead of with the people.
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Quote from: P on May 27, 2019, 07:55:16 am
Quote from: buyerI will always protect it as a Japanese treasure
Or until it succumbs to bitrot.
We'll all be dead before the data dies unless the guy sticks it in the oven
Floating gate memory is "guaranteed for 10 years" but will actually last thousands at 25C
http://cache.freescale.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/eng_bulletin/EB618.pdf
Then if it outlives the hoarder, maybe it still has a chance to see the light of day again.
Quote"I think it is the correct solution to be buried in the dark because it is a game that should not exist"
Yeah right, like they had some dark secrets they don't want to be seen by the world. The developers would have burned it long ago in that case. Fate might as well have meant it to be but the developers just failed to complete it (like probably most other games that are developed).
I read the full comment of the buyer and he said something to this effect:
QuoteThis title is a large page of Famicom history, and I wanted by all means to stop it from falling into the hands of those people that copies and sells games that are non-commercial like this. So for that reason I want all you who truly loves games to be at ease. I will protect this as a treasure of Japan at all cost. This I promise. I can't help it if it's leaked from the seller though.
Like we could trust some random crazy dude. Protecting it from scammers? How? Just storing it forever? What does it matter that it's non-commercial? Nothing makes any sense whatsoever.
So yeah, it WAS swooped by a mysterious "historian" (although a bad one that wants to delete history).
I think you guys are overthinking this. I think it's just a collector that wants to keep it for themselves only.
They are saying that to get a reaction that will make them feel warm and fuzzy when read, it's seems silly to be genuine, I think they're just trolling you and the native collectors.
It doesn't look at all special to me, but I'm sure it'll end up in the wild eventually with an English translation probably too a few years later.
Quotelarge page of Famicom history
1992
MMC1
Dragon Quest like
I LOL'd
And how many more were burried on FDS?
It's the software that has historical value, not the hardware. The more the reason to salvage the software.
Quote from: L___E___T on May 27, 2019, 12:49:44 pm
I think you guys are overthinking this. I think it's just a collector that wants to keep it for themselves only.
They are saying that to get a reaction that will make them feel warm and fuzzy when read, it's seems silly to be genuine, I think they're just trolling you and the native collectors.
That's what I'm saying. Protecting it from repro sellers is just an excuse.