Yeah, anyone still in school? It sucks to be back, right?
That's why I'm glad that I'm a teacher. :D
School sucks??!! Man, I'd give anything to be back in school. If I could I'd go back for the rest of my life. 9 to 5's, now that there truly sucks.
QuoteI think this is the 3rd or 4th week now. I enrolled in a class called "Overview of the Video Game Industry" we meet on Mon. nights.
I'm bringing my GameCube so we all can play Smash Bros. while we wait on the instructor.
>:( That's not school!
QuoteSchool sucks??!! Man, I'd give anything to be back in school. If I could I'd go back for the rest of my life. 9 to 5's, now that there truly sucks.
That's true. High School has to be the best of times.
College my friend, nothing better than the 5 years I spent at film school. I don't think it'll ever get better than that. If anyone here is still in highschool and is planning to go to a local college, CHANGE YOUR PLANS IMMEDIATELY. Going far far far away to school is the best thing you could ever do.
IMO school is fun , studying once a year when you have examns and just relaxing the rest of the year 8) The only thing that makes work better is the money that you earn. With that money you can buy games. As a student , you don't have a lot of money to spend ;D
That's true: I don't have any money. I used to go to poker nights with buds, but losing $10 a night is no fun, especially since you could get a few NES games for that price.
School sure is boring and it sucks.
QuoteThat's not the only class I'm taking.
Still, I'd gladly trade Canadian History for a class about video games.
Napolean Dynamyte ???
What a shit class it would be to have to watch and study Napoleon Dynamite -- to have to talk about a junk, pop-culture, MTV-drool, cliche, pathetic-humored flick. :-X I think not!
You gotta admit though. Before he became the Emo Hero (as it were), the movie is pretty hilarious. I often find myself quoting it at the risk of being scrutinized by peers.
I remember watching it for the first time...not one laugh from my mouth. The entire production was a pathetic attempt at humor. But I realize it was, for better or worse, quite popular among the masses.
I know it's not smart comedy, and none of the actors are really that talented, but c'mon. How 'bout when the guy shot the cow when the school bus of kids rolled by? That was amazing! That must've at least let out a chuckle...
I don't remember that part, actually. Mustn't have been too eventful for me. You want good stupid comedy...there's nothing better than Dumb and Dumber.
"I got robbed by a sweet old lady on a motorized cart." :D
Indeed...
"Wanna hear the most annoying sounds in the world?
EEEEEEYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHEEEEEAAAAAAAAHYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Back on topic...it's nice to see all your old buds again for those of us returning to high school. Heck, one even tells me if I save up a grand by Spring Break, I might be able to go with him and the rest of his Japanese class to Japan for a week, which would be so gnarly.
Hell, going to Japan would be awesome. :D
As for me, I'm four months out of college and wondering if I should return for a Masters. I liked school -- kept me thinking about those BIG and important questions, kept me searching.
Berring you have the cash, why not go back?
Anywho, if I do end up going, you guys'll need to fill me in on what to look out for so I get to see everything, video game wise and the country itself. The article at the NES section at AtariHQ has only gotten me more excited.
If given the chance to go to Japan, I say, GO FOR IT!
Oh, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and picking up every penny I see on the street. Ok, well, I'm not that desparate for money...Damn it! I need a job..
Dumb and Dumber has some classic lines that go by really quick if you don't pay attention.
"I don't wat to go to Aspen. Besides the French are assholes."
Quote from: FamicomJL on September 08, 2006, 11:30:27 am
Yeah, anyone still in school? It sucks to be back, right?
That's why I'm glad that I'm a teacher. :D
What do you teach?
When I went to school I actually liked it.
Now university sucks. I just wish all was over already. I will be graduating next summer with the master's degree hopefully. :D
Quote from: manuel on September 13, 2006, 02:36:44 pm
Quote from: FamicomJL on September 08, 2006, 11:30:27 am
Yeah, anyone still in school? It sucks to be back, right?
That's why I'm glad that I'm a teacher. :D
What do you teach?
When I went to school I actually liked it.
Now university sucks. I just wish all was over already. I will be graduating next summer with the master's degree hopefully. :D
11th Grade American History. :)
Quote from: manuel on September 13, 2006, 02:36:44 pm
Now university sucks. I just wish all was over already. I will be graduating next summer with the master's degree hopefully. :D
A master's degree in ....? I'm guessing your studying to become a doctor or something like that, because your 27. And here in belgium , if you are graduating when your 27 you're either studying as a doctor ( or something like that) or you liked high school ;D (or you took a school break)
Master's degree in Japanese studies, Chinese studies and Theoretic Linguistics. (maybe a bit more difficult combination than your normal economics or politics study...) I think I won't take the doctor's course later.
I'm already 27, yeah... :P
Why this took so long is that I had to do military service and then I had to take a 1 year break in order to study in Japan. In Germany we don't have the "credits" system, so I couldn't use the credits earned in Japan to use towards my graduation. That was a year "lost" if you want to put it that way.
The first year in university I could't take many classes, too, because I had trouble finding a place to live in Munich.
So actually, if everything went perfectly and I did not study a year in Japan, I would have graduated at 25. But hell, I don't regret the year off. Japan was a great experience nobody can take from me any more. :D
Then you can tell me the difference between chinese and japanese :) Are they 2 completely different languages or are they similar ?
Not similar AT ALL.
The only similarity is with the characters, which the Japanese stole borrowed from the Chinese.
The languages themselves are as different as they could be, because their morphological structure is different. Phonology is also totally the other way round.
Japanese is an agglutinating language, Chinese to the contrary is an isolating (=analyctic) language.
If you're interested, here's some good reads:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolating_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolating_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolating_language
That sucks :) I wanted to learn chines because because it's gonna be a new world language but then i learned that nintendo games are in japanese ( they are japanese right ? :D) and suddenly it was less apealing :-\
If i understand it right in japanes you would say 'duckling' and in chines you would say 'little duck' ?
Sorry for the late answer, but as a principle it is how you said.
In Japanese you just add a lot of suffixes to a word to change it's meaning. In Chinese you express the same with many words.
It doesn't work so well with nouns though. You can see it in verbs.
Just for people who are interested, the Chinese and Japanese characters for "duckling" are the same. ;)
子鴨
The pronunciation is different. Kogamo (Japanese) and Xiaoya (Chinese)
From my limited knowledge, some of the numbers are pronounced similar.
As for school... It is my senior year in high school and I'll be heading off to college soon enough. All those questions and insecurity... When will it stop!?!
Seems like teachers are having fun busting out all the homework and projects at the last minute... Why oh why!?
I end school since a lot of years. Sometimes the nostalgia invades me and I want to comeback 'cause I enjoy school. :)
Quote from: kezja on March 17, 2007, 12:14:46 pm
Seems like teachers are having fun busting out all the homework and projects at the last minute... Why oh why!?
Because we feel students are EVIL. :P
These days, I'd agree with you, JL. Fucking kids are so indifferent -- downright careless.
Quote from: FamicomJL on March 17, 2007, 02:15:09 pmBecause we feel students are EVIL. :P
And here I thought teachers were supposed to "love" kids, hehe. I bet the band instructor at my school agrees with you after he found his car had been "keyed" all over...
Quote from: JC on March 17, 2007, 04:36:43 pm
These days, I'd agree with you, JL. Fucking kids are so indifferent -- downright careless.
Don't forget lazy... In some of my AP classes, most of the kids moan and whine about any homework and classwork. I don't whine as much as they do, but I do dislike the fact that the teachers are cranking out so much MORE at the last minute.
Well, you gotta get ready for the final exams. And, we get yelled at if we go light on the homework. :-X
Quote from: FamicomJL on March 18, 2007, 08:38:38 am
Well, you gotta get ready for the final exams. And, we get yelled at if we go light on the homework. :-X
lol. That reminds me that teachers at my school get put on a "Bad Pass List" for not correctly writing hall passes for kids. Then they get lectured over it.
~sigh~ I guess you're right about finals. But there is still plenty of time before finals. ^.o;
Fuck, I have to go back in tommorow...this summer was THE fastest summer vacation I've ever been through. I don't want to go back to teaching bratty kids yet. It feels like the beginning of August...
Counting down the days until June...
Well, I went to public school last year.
And it was hell on Earth.
Four fights, a mini gangwar, I got sent to the principles office three times for no reason.(really, thats not just an excuse. The teacher starts sending random people to the office when shes mad.) not to mention I barely passed.
So my parents think its a good idea to homeschool...
We're getting this DVD set, so I pretty much watch my teachers on TV.
I homeschooled once before. And I was bored out of my freakin mind!!!
Maybe it will be better this year. Now I know a ton of people who homeschool.
Yikes dude...homeschool? I went to some pretty rough schools as a kid, especially junior high which was in a drug infested neighborhood. But in retrospect, seeing all that was worth it. It made me bust my ass in schoolwork and stay out of trouble, and I wound up going to one of the best high schools in NY where every student went to top tier colleges. Plus, the best part of school growing up is oogling at all the hot chicks!!! Don't you miss out on all that???
Ya, I'm not sure about homeschooling either.
I waz kinda forced, didnt have much choice...
My parents heard that about two kids had been killed in my school in the past 10 or so years.
I get to go to gym type of things with bowling, swimming, rock climbing walls and stuff like that. Might not be too bad.
i dont think skool is that bad. so far its pretty cool. english, gym, german, nd biology.
7th grade had to be the worst.
You take German in school? Nice. ;D
i had to take russian for 4 years. it sucked ass.
And how much Russian did you remember?
Was that first or second foreign language?
German is so fun its such an easy subject and i like learning it
I remember pretty much nothing except for "hello", "hi", "my name is", and "goodbye" :D
Quote from: Jollie on September 06, 2007, 12:58:13 pm
German is so fun its such an easy subject and i like learning it
You're the first one to tell me German was easy. ;D
It's cool you like it.
I wish they teach German or Japanese at my school. Oh well I'm going to transfer next year anyways so woot
German wasnt my best subject..
aber famicomwelt ist spitze.. :D
Yes japanese is cool :)
Famicom Welt ist wirklich spitze.
ファミコンワールドはまじですんげぇ。 ;D
With my first semester of college behind me, I can say school rocks! I haven't had so much fun going to school since the 6th grade. I'm not saying college classes rock because they're easy, some are really tough, but because of all the freedom and the new environment that immerses you. Definitely thinking about studying abroad for the summer in my sophomore year or so. :D
Oh, and for the dude that posted earlier that knows Chinese, which one do you know? Mandarin or Cantonese? There isn't just "one" Chinese language, but actually many different ones depending on the dialect and location.
Haha, I'm the opposite. I think college sucks, but high school was the best. In college, there's too much responsibility, and it costs way too much. Some classes are needlessly difficult, too (bad professors). I'd rather just be a kid, heh. :P
Quote from: Josh on January 10, 2008, 12:25:52 pm
Haha, I'm the opposite. I think college sucks, but high school was the best. In college, there's too much responsibility, and it costs way too much. Some classes are needlessly difficult, too (bad professors). I'd rather just be a kid, heh. :P
Amen to that ;D. Also (at least here) some classes are insanely difficult, with the purpose of making people fail and repeat a year, making them pay more for the extra year they have to make.
Well I got a C in german last quarter.
I forgot homework a lot.
I never graduated, but I just went back to school yesterday and I am taking one last shot at it, haha. :P Wish me luck.
Quote from: MaxXimus on February 05, 2008, 06:38:05 pm
I never graduated, but I just went back to school yesterday and I am taking one last shot at it, haha. :P Wish me luck.
college or high school?
High school, I am taking ELA, Economics, Mathematics, and am on a waiting list for Law and Family Studies(I'll take which ever comes up first).
Quote from: MaxXimus on February 06, 2008, 07:14:29 am
High school, I am taking ELA, Economics, Mathematics, and am on a waiting list for Law and Family Studies(I'll take which ever comes up first).
Sounds awesome hope you do well!
Despite being graduated and having a good job I still miss college. Let me tell you, once college is over your opportunities to meet hot girls decreases tenfold.
Quote from: battra92 on February 06, 2008, 12:20:28 pm
Despite being graduated and having a good job I still miss college. Let me tell you, once college is over your opportunities to meet hot girls decreases tenfold.
hhahahaha you can still try starbucks!
This was made to keep the last thing you did thread on topic.
TALK ABOUT SCHOOL
I'm in 8th grade. All the sixth graders clear out when they see me. I OWN THE ZONE
We have a thread for that already. Merged...
Truthfully, I hated school from day one. I'm an unconventional person who naturally absorbs knowledge from any and all points in various media... but I learn in a slightly delayed process, and generally if I'm interested in the subject at hand, I'll of course excel much better. But I knew from as early as the 2nd Grade, School Sucks. Even then, I saw it for what it was, and that's that the system basically takes any and all individuals and strips them of any individual thought, only provides answers to questions that's within a set curriculum, and that curriculum isn't necessarily about EDUCATING the respective student, as much as it's about PROCESSING that person into a standard that outside of specific "specialty" careers, is really a waste of time. I remember being the kid who did mathematics backwards and never had to carry ones or anything, but since I didn't show my work... it was wrong. Later during Algebra classes I'd often times (not always) simply look at an equation and know the final answer, but it was counted as wrong because the real answer was showing the work and how one arrived at the answer, to which I'd say:
"Like I give a rats ass! If the answer is ______ then that's that."
Thus I look at the so called educative system as a big joke, but I'm going to forever be in the minority on that topic. The people with Masters Degrees and PHDs get the respect and the money, but a good deal (not all) lack even a smidgen of *common sense* that outside of their fields doesn't mean jack. But what can you do. My wife between her and I is the Master's Degree holder (a top kick Librarian in Elementary School, teacher before that), and she admits that preparing children to take a series of SCANTRON multiple choice tests really isn't education as much as how I define it... which is processing. I think a good deal of the problems that many students have is that the educative system isn't itself based in reality. Not everyone is going to be college/university material... not everyone who wants to go into a trade should do so and probably would be better off in college, etc, etc. But the mantra today is to let any who can't be reached past a certain point fall through the cracks and promote a collegiate lifestyle for everyone, and when many can't do it... what happens to them? They end up tomorrow's criminals and/or disgruntle citizens, most likely in a position where they'll be in a generational tradition of poverty and government handouts.
I'll never understand why from Junior High School (Middle School) onward classes aren't set up in the manner college is set up. Where the student picks their scholastic courses of study and then they are encouraged to continue in an area they will most likely be both economically viable in as an adult, and where there isn't penalties for not being "as good" at something as the next student in another area? Instead, there's TEST A and TEST B, and if one can't do it, that person might even be a genius (I'm supposed to be an "eccentric" one, but I couldn't care less, ain't doing me no good if I can't access it when I want to or be recognized by those with degrees) because society dismisses them. I've known hobos with more education and life experience than some professors teaching shit they know very little (if anything at all) about.
So I'm on board for "School Sucks". Damn glad after I left the 12th grade and a brief stint in college I walked away. I'll never be rich, but the whole set up is a joke. If one is fortunate enough to be in a high playing field of endeavor, hey more power to them, and GOD Speed... but overall, people would be better off studying at their own pace, and actually going out and living life and getting life experience. I mean, I get ragged on by my wife because here she is the Master's Degree holder and recognized professional, but once she attained that status, she stopped learning. Has no interest in educative programming, reading books both non fiction and fiction, has a limited vocabulary (heh, and she's the Librarian) and I'm just the opposite. Forever absorbing books, making friends with people who are recognized "experts" in their fields and actually getting their education for free as I get schooled on the parts I don't understand. But society will never change it's present course and the world of idiocracy is the future in the long run. Because often it's the most educated that don't see the point in continuing their education outside of respective curriculums, and it's they that are supposed to be walking the point and setting the examples.
Oh well.
Yeah... School Sucks! Damn glad I don't have to go back
and probably couldn't be paid enough to go back either.
I'll just say I disagree completely. You have an incredibly cynical view on education, no offense.
Education has trended in the wrong direction, more testing, more software programs for career selection...a lot of it is just the sham of human management: How do we get these youngsters to be "good citizens" who labor on behalf of an economy?
I also agree that life experience is much more significant that than hearing lectures -- and life experience can include research, of course. I have spent the last two years of my life engaged in community work for my municipal government...I'm learning stuff no civics or public administration class could ever teach me.
On the downside, as you say, my life experience isn't worth as much as the piece of paper I'd get upon graduating with a Master's or what have you.
George Carlin on education and the elite HERE (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd87z_george-carlin-education-and-the-eli_extreme).
Agent X and JC are dead on with this.
Today, (life) experience isn't worth as much as a stupid little slip of paper that says that you can read books and write reports well.
I'm home-schooled... :'(
SAVE ME!!! :P
Quote from: son_ov_hades on March 03, 2009, 05:15:21 pm
I'll just say I disagree completely. You have an incredibly cynical view on education, no offense.
Not trying to offend you or anyone else here, just saying my piece on it is all there son_ov_hades. Apparently both JC and manuel see where I was going with my post. I'm not for abolishing the education system, nor am I saying a centralized schooling system isn't needed. But the manner in which it is ran needs to be seriously overhauled, re tweaked and set into motion. Everyone is concerned with "appearances" instead of integrity and a desire to comprehend and apply that absorbed knowledge into a viable method of operations anchored in common sense. I wouldn't want say a guy who flips burgers at a Mickey Dees performing brain surgery on me or anyone else, but at the same time, not everything should be about the credentials that do little more than say (seriously here)
"Hey look at me, I went to such and such school and now you should recognize me, oh alumni of similar schools if not the same school. I put myself in debt for the recognition, now give me a job, and screw that other guy who might actually be smarter than me and possibly a better fit. But fuck that guy, he/she didn't put themselves in debt, didn't sit through equally boring lectures in classes I didn't myself want to attend, so here I am."
That's it in a nut shell. And again, outside of *specialty* careers that would demand a super high criteria of expertise, most of what gets taught in the public school systems is rarely used on a daily basis. Therefore it would be more beneficial if the school systems actually focused on what the respective student felt they were truly interested in doing career wise by the time they hit the 7th grade. And let's face it... while most aren't mature enough to be rock solid on something, most of us know by thirteen or fourteen what interests us. So while I am indeed a cynic, it has it's impetus from the idiocy of over educated fellows who think their shit don't stink and likely (I've been personally persecuted numerous times in this manner) are either appalled, or intimidated by those of us out here who might have dynamic personalities on top of the ability to be quick learners to a specific task. And therefore the ones who don't "put in their dues" as they see it, aren't going to get their foot in the door simply because
How dare they! I had a pretty good position for about 5 months back in '99 in a marketing position. The person who hired me loved my off the wall/unconventional (I called it "Guerrilla Marketing") approach to things, completely negating like half of what was taught in most business schools, and applied my own
high context personality into the high context in a low context (business curriculum terms 101) society that is the US, and made things work. Prospective clients became clients, things got done.
Then that guy left and the second in command who took over (and whom always hated my guts) made sure I was the first to go, because in his opinion, and I respect him to this day for at least articulating as such to me and not being a back stabbing little shit.. well in his words: "I didn't go through SIX YEARS of business school at a major university to be bested by someone of the likes of you! Hit the road guy!" ---So I did. 2 years later that dude and all his cronies who got in the door through sheer nepotism were done for themselves. They had the credentials, but didn't have the personality nor the forward "out the box" thinking that only comes with life experience and taking chances in unconventional means. So I guess it's things like this that make me a little (no a lot) cynical towards our so called educative system. At least as far as the United States is concerned. But I do have my issues with countries like Japan, where the pressure is so damn great it's not uncommon for a kid to jump off a building, slit their wrists down the road, hang themselves or whatever in a suicidal end. In that respect, I find it hilarious (in a dark way) that over there the whole "Bushido" thing gets tossed around the corporate world, where Sokaiya Yakuza racketeers mess up shareholders meetings until paid to leave... blackmail is like the #3 trade amongst colleagues... ridiculous porn is birthed... and more, yet at the same time the society as a whole is told to
walk the line and deal with things. Even stranger is how anyone who's done enough studying on Japan (since it's always touted as being damn near perfect by the media) knows that without guys like Yoshio Kodama, Kazuo Taoka and other underworld types, the post WW2 Japan wouldn't even exist, and to this day their own government (The Diet) is about as corrupt if not moreso than George Dubya's 8 year reign put together.
But everyone is striving towards more scholastic tests that prove little to nothing at all. When you read a text book from say the 1950s or 1960s versus today, you'll see that modern Political Correctness has marred any serious ability to teach a person how to absorb and utilize in a practical manner that very issue at hand. Essay tests where one has to explain the gist of the topic at hand proves mastery of a subject, either it totality or how that person applies it to themselves in society. Both are right, but what everyone wants is economically viable spokes on a wheel. And for that I guess it's why I feel
School Sucks overall. I know personally I'll work my ass off the rest of my life, but that's alright, I'd rather do that and have procured knowledge where I could get it and actually KNOW something, than to have processed it and forgot it. But that's just me bro (can I call you bro?) I meant no offense to anyone here, and I can see where my own POV on this might ruffle some feathers, but that's just how I see it, have been effected by it and have in certain cases Triumphed over it. Of course if the shoe doesn't fit anyone here, don't bother wearing it.
It seems what you have a problem with is the college system. I agree that they charge outrageous prices and whatnot, but the college system is necessary in this country. You can't maintain a 14 trillion dollar GDP, being the richest country in the world by far, without a majority higher educated workforce. Industries like financial services, which do no actual production make up a huge part of our GDP. That industry would fall apart with C students running it, look at it's current state.
As for the impracticality of school subjects, that shows a clear misunderstanding of educational philosophy. Education is there to teach the content, yes. I think it's quite important that students understand the American Revolution for instance. However, at their core schools are there to provide students with the skills to become functional members of society. No one outside of "specialty" careers needs to know about molecular biology, but subjects like that teach skills like observation, experimentation, problem solving etc. These are all things that are damn important to being a functioning member of society.
I don't wanna have to pay $400 for a parking spot that I *might* get. ::)
Quote from: son_ov_hades on March 04, 2009, 12:28:14 pm
It seems what you have a problem with is the college system. I agree that they charge outrageous prices and whatnot, but the college system is necessary in this country. You can't maintain a 14 trillion dollar GDP, being the richest country in the world by far, without a majority higher educated workforce. Industries like financial services, which do no actual production make up a huge part of our GDP. That industry would fall apart with C students running it, look at it's current state.
No one outside of "specialty" careers needs to know about molecular biology, but subjects like that teach skills like observation, experimentation, problem solving etc. These are all things that are damn important to being a functioning member of society.
#1) Yeah you're probably right on this note. I do think however, that the college curriculum style would be more beneficial at an early age/scholastic level though. Get people motivated in the right direction much earlier and actually help them along into securing that position and/or dream job, rather an across the board thing where the individual may or may not become disenfranchised with the whole setup and possibly either dropout or tune out any instruction beyond a certain point at a subconscious level they aren't even aware they are doing. ***No argument about needing our youth of tomorrow to be able to compete with other industrialized nations, but at the same time, I'd rather have people from here who actually want to move into *specific* career positions (as specialists/experts) get the furthered attention they need and be properly cultivated into being that, than say for a kind of "everyone has to have THIS MUCH and then can forget it if they don't like it." type setup.
#2) Well this is somewhat debatable. I mean, you don't need to take Biology courses of study in order to know how to properly "observe" things. Though I do admit that a lot of what is taught in those courses is indeed "interesting" and good to know to make one overall well rounded. But (and I'm speaking for me here, no one else) things like biology interest me more when I have the time to devote to the subject and not feel HAMMERED within a time constraint to basically memorize the course and pass a series of tests that say I had the right to pass onto the next level/grade etc... only to not be able to tell you jack about it say three years down the road. This is what I've seen with most people. They knew the subject at the time, but unless they did go into a field where they'd constantly use it, they never really knew it. But you are right sir, the varying subjects are indeed *needed*, I just don't like the standardized method that allows only those who may learn in that method excel whereas anyone who may be just as smart (and in most cases are), just don't make the grade because their are a numbers of ways the sensorium of human thought absorbs and process the information. I guess that's my real gripe. School is only for those who can be amongst the collective and anyone who thinks differently, or learns in a delayed manner basically might as well leave school and become a hobo, or wait until they're old enough to churn out porn flicks cause their cock or pussy will be the only thing to get them serious moola outside of working crappy retail jobs.
I personally got lucky due to being able to use my gift of gab, and eventually learning how my own mind worked at one point working with a psychologist who discovered that I learn with the subconscious mind which is kind of like a latent image on celluloid film, versus the average person who learns with the "conscious" brain immediately. But even I will admit, after having been in an Armed Security Enforcement capacity for almost twelve years and doing a number of other jobs (all that I liked) I'm at a point burned out. I've got the personality and the ability with OJT to be as good as the next worker, but without that piece of paper, forget it. Guys/Gals like me cannot show scholastic mastery through the normal means, tests have to either be verbal or essay based. Multiple Choice only short circuits the brain, even when it should be more than obvious, but that has more to do with IN THE REAL WORLD, there is always the unconventional variable approach that might be the best answer to a problem (in anything), and a test would have you believe in absolutes, which outside of making sure to not mix elements/chemicals and such on a periodic table, just isn't true. But the professionals aren't going to make concessions for anything other than "the standard approach". Heck in college I discovered (4) problems on a test that I proved several times over was absolute bullshit, even taking the cluster fuck to the dean...
did they change the test so that the problem was corrected? NOPE, almost twelve years later I understand that test is still administered, in spite of those known problems (trick questions, none of the answers being logical at all) because of the very reason the dean told me back in '97.
"You're absolutely right son, but no one is going to change it because it's FOUR problems! With that attitude it's no wonder that principles went out the window in favor of convenience factor, and why should the youth coming up really give a damn about anything? Especially when the government itself (as it stands) wants to proliferate a "you're rewarded for doing nothing" mantra. Yep, so I can lose 3 months of salary (where I work my ass off) to pay for some condom leak out there who mooches off the government, does little and probably slings drugs somewhere on a corner. He gets my and probably Your money, but if we do it right... we get penalized or find out we're over qualified if not over eligible for things we should have a right to.
Alas I'm rambling now. We're both right, and you make some damn good points sir. But I don't think I'll ever respect the education system as it exists currently, nor how society as a whole (at least here in the States) seems to penalize those of us with solid work ethics and gives cookies to people who should be out there doing it right as well. To me this begins #1 in the home, and #2 at the school level. When everything is about "appearances" from day one, well to me, it's off to a horrible start from the get go, and at best you have a society of so/so people.
Ah okay, i think we've cleared this up a bit. I agree that the system needs work, but unfortunately change really only comes with a new generation. It's very rare that a 20 year veteran teacher will change anything unless it will lose them their job. At least we(those in the education field) are trying to improve. Increasing awareness and strategies about cultural differences, learning disabilities, emotional disabilities, diseases etc. are given more focus and implementation today than ever before.
I think we agree more than I originally thought. This is a good debate though.
School doesn't always suck. It depends on what you have for a class load.
I like being in school. If I could, I would be a perpetual student.... best way to avoid paying off student loans...EVER... just don't stop being a student, officially.
The only thing that I have run across that I officially dislike, is Calculus. It's interesting, but it is soooo different to me it isn't even funny. Also, I don't have the greatest faith in my professor. I like the guy, as a person, but I think his teaching methods are a little lacking. We also move at a fast pace, which bothers me. Usually, I have no problems grasping something, and running with it.... but this is the hardest friggin' math I have ever had to do, and sometimes I feel a little left in the lurch.
Aside from times like that, I rather like school. Just too bad that I am going to have to pay all of this back eventually... I have a pretty large chunk of student loan debt... and it's only going to grow for the next couple of years.
When I was little I really liked school.
Towards the end I didn't like it as much, but I never hated it.
Yah try working for eleven hours a day when your homeschooled!!!! :-[
really boring!!!! :-\
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Quote from: manuel on March 05, 2009, 10:56:50 pm
When I was little I really liked school.
Towards the end I didn't like it as much, but I never hated it.
Same here, I don't like school now, but I don't hate it. As a younger kid though, I loved it.
Two more weeks til summer break. 2 more years of school. (10th grade)
Unless you're going to college.
im tired of school
all tests but one are finished :-\ can't wait for summer ;D ;D
I just want summer to hurry up already!
2 days after my summer break started I was back at school :(
When I'm in school I always look forward to breaks, but when it's summertime I usually want to go back to school. It's not that I don't like summer, but I just don't like not having anything to do. I've started on a list of things to get done this summer, so that might help, but chances are I'll be too lazy to get even one of them done. ::)
Hopefully I'll have a decent Famicom collection by the beginning of next school year. :)
I didn't wanna make a new thread for this, so I'll just post it here
When's everyone's last day of school? (For people who don't go year around) Mine's tomorrow, we only go until 10:20
Mine was weeks ago.
When do you go back?
August 25th, standard college schedule.
My last day is next Thursday... counting down the days. I've got a bunch of stuff planned for this summer, and hopefully I'll follow through with it. The thing I hate about the end of the year is that summer is so close, but the only way to get to enjoy it is taking finals... ugh.
I only took an English final. In our middle school, there is no such thing as a final test. I only had to take one in English because I go to our high school for that class. That one was easy though, just your standard comprehension test. It took me all of 15 minutes to complete.
June4th I think.
EFF EFF EFF EFF I dont know if I can get my grades up by then D:
I got finals or regents for:
Design and Draw for Production
Freshman Seminar (Complete!)
English 9 (I think)
Spanish II
Geometry
Global 1
Biology
My last day of classes is the 12th, but my last day of school, period, is either the 22nd or 25th, I forget.
School laptops are collected in the second week of June, starting from seniors, going down to freshmen. My laptop is collected on the 11th.