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Clumsy old video games?

Started by JC, July 14, 2009, 04:28:14 pm

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JC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31896311
http://tahiriheditor.newsvine.com/_news/2009/07/13/3023311-top-5-reasons-modern-games-beat-retro-ones

One comment expressing how I see it:

QuoteToday's games look and sound better, but I would argue that they don't play any better, feature better stories, or are more fun than older games. Take Punchout for example. The new version on the Wii is basically a rehash of the same tried and true game play introduced in the mid-80's (albeit with a coat of fresh paint and the option for motion controls that add little to the game beyond that of the traditional button-based scheme).


Ooo...another one:

QuoteI prefer the cartoon look of older games over the ultra realistic graphics.

Jedi Master Baiter

I will always be playing "old" games because video games are being released in mass quantities too fast, & I'll never be able to keep up. :(

son_ov_hades

I like new games fine, but old games are simply more fun. I've beaten SMB3 like 20 times, but still have tons of fun playing it.

nohara3

The only thing I agree about is preferring older games to new ones. I have to say Nintendo is really living up to their name. Leave luck to heaven! (begin sarcasm) Sure let's just release the same games over and over again and lets see where it takes us! Great idea! Let's do it with the next system too! Groovy! Wait! Let's make a system that basically is the Gamecube that has a controller that you can shake around so that you get tired after 2 hours of playing or if you are a dumb American throw it into your TV! Sugoi! (end sarcasm) Don't get me wrong I love Nintendo to death but I am really shocked to see all these cheapo multiplayer "party" games and to find that the few decent games that are on Wii are also on Gamecube. But one might say, oh, well they have the virtual console. Well, that is kind of sad, that emulation is the only redeeming feature for a system, when you can just emulate on your PC for free (if you own the game ;D). And Blake Snow, you suck. Never ever write an article about a video game ever again. Just go an burn your journalism degree. Better graphics? Better controls? Multiplayer? More captivating? Better reasons? Hmmm, that one is nowhere to be found. How about great single player for people like me who like to play games alone? Where were you when my mind exploded as a 4 year old when games went from a text, to games that looked like blocks, to games with many more dots that kinda looked like real things? Where were you when the socks of little kids like me where blow off when they saw an adventure like the original Final Fantasy and Castlevania? Or later when I got older and got my pants blow off when I saw the Saga and Suikoden series? Where did the challenge go? And, most of all, where did the fun go? Now that game are becoming somewhat acceptable and "in", mediocre and crap games are raining down like the next great flood. And what is the emphasis on multiplayer? Why would you give a single player game a bad review because it lacked multiplayer? I for one play games to get AWAY from people. If I want to be around people I go out into the real world like to a bar or a concert or something along those lines. There are some games that are fun playing with friends but when your only friends are Simon Belmont and Sonic The Hedgehog it's kind of hard to play 2+ player (unless you are tails  :P ). Back in the day, most games (more or less) where good or at least decent and you knew right away if a game sucked. You weren't lulled in by super graphics and lighting or "innovative" designs. I remember the days of spending whole months playing games. Now you can beat most games with in a few days to a week, unless it's an RPG. Sorry for this rant, I hope I didn't go too far off the deep end.  8)

Jedi Master Baiter

You might want to separate any future rants you might have into paragraphs - more people are likely to read it.

Quote from: nohara3 on July 15, 2009, 06:20:15 pm
(begin sarcasm) Sure let's just release the same games over and over again and lets see where it takes us! Great idea! Let's do it with the next system too! Groovy!

I'm sick of all the same old shit.  I was hoping Punch Out!! was going to work more like a sequel, not a remake.

Why don't we ever see Nintendo's characters getting older & advancing? F-Zero GX worked like that, but it was developed by Sega.  All we're getting are remakes marketed to new gamers that make old school players so damn bored, & I have NO MOTIVATION to play them anymore.

Quote from: nohara3 on July 15, 2009, 06:20:15 pm
And Blake Snow, you suck. Never ever write an article about a video game ever again. Just go an burn your journalism degree.

The article says there's going to be another one: But hold those tomatoes -- we know there are two sides to every story. Tune in next week when we name the "Top 5 reasons retro games beat modern ones." Clever, huh?

If anyone hasn't noticed, I was listening to Longview :)

nohara3

Quote from: Jedi QuestMaster on July 15, 2009, 07:27:55 pm
You might want to separate any future rants you might have into paragraphs - more people are likely to read it.

Quote from: nohara3 on July 15, 2009, 06:20:15 pm
(begin sarcasm) Sure let's just release the same games over and over again and lets see where it takes us! Great idea! Let's do it with the next system too! Groovy!

I'm sick of all the same old shit.  I was hoping Punch Out!! was going to work more like a sequel, not a remake.

Why don't we ever see Nintendo's characters getting older & advancing? F-Zero GX worked like that, but it was developed by Sega.  All we're getting are remakes marketed to new gamers that make old school players so damn bored, & I have NO MOTIVATION to play them anymore.

Quote from: nohara3 on July 15, 2009, 06:20:15 pm
And Blake Snow, you suck. Never ever write an article about a video game ever again. Just go an burn your journalism degree.

The article says there's going to be another one: But hold those tomatoes -- we know there are two sides to every story. Tune in next week when we name the "Top 5 reasons retro games beat modern ones." Clever, huh?

If anyone hasn't noticed, I was listening to Longview :)
Thanks for pointing that out, I'll have to check that out to see if it changes my mind about him.

UglyJoe

Probably my biggest gripe with newer games is that they abandoned 2d for 3d without fully realizing the potential of 2d. 

Rogles

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FamicomFreak

I will probably play old games by myself while the new ones are a lot more appealing to most gamers. I have a friend that I always talk about retro games but when it comes to playing a game we pretty much play xbox 360 or ps3.
Retro Gaming Life  www.retrogaminglife.com

Byron

New games have a better multi-player experience, huh?

I submit that Warlords is the greatest multi-player game that has ever existed and shall always remain so.

mobiusclimber

The problem with 3D over 2D is that developers have all but stopped making 2D games, which pretty much destroyed certain genres. You can say "at least they still make 2D games for handhelds" but I'd love to see what could be done on a next-gen console. None of the recent Mario or Zelda games (since the N64) that are on consoles play anything like the older titles, and it's a crying shame. I don't mind when a developer branches out w/ their properties (I love me some Sonic Adventure, for instance, and Metroid Prime just plain rocks), but don't just relegate the original gameplay to handhelds, particularly if you're just going to cock it all up anyway! It's pretty sad that the last decent 2D Zelda title was made by Capcom rather than Nintendo.

Beyond that, the new games are all style over substance, flash and noise signifying nothing. It isn't a classics vs new, as the games for the PS2 easily trump those for the PS3, Wii and 360. I'd rather play the first four RE titles over 4 and 5 any day. And what the hell happened to Squaresoft? I mean, Infinite Undiscovery? Last Remnant? Is that the BEST you can do??? I remember when their stand-alone titles were highly anticipated and kick-ass to boot. Heck, I'd play Threads of Fate sooner than I'd play Infinite Undiscovery!

Then you've got developers thinking that console gamers want to play watered-down PC games. And not the GOOD PC games either, just FPS all the time. The sad part is I think I had more fun with Gears of War than just about any other 360 title. You know your console has failed when that's the truth.

But I really think we should just give it time. Seems like every time there's new technology or even just a new system, developers don't know what to do. It's like when 3D was the new thing, all the 3D games sucked, hard. It took awhile for decent titles to get produced that actually benefitted from 3D. And the fact that certain 2D titles sell as hotly as they do (Mega Man 9, anyone?) makes me optimistic for the future. Hopefully developers will see that there's a market out there for all kinds of games, not just fps pc ports and fmv-heavy extravaganzas. We just have to wait and see.
Proud owner of Super Smash Games in Tacoma and Seattle

japanfreak

Well, it's looking great actually! Retro Gaming is 'in'.

I would call this age: The rebirth of 2D games.

And games like Contra, Gradius and Wario will always be 2D :D

JC


FamicomFreak

Yeah I agree...I didn't like the first reason at all.
Retro Gaming Life  www.retrogaminglife.com

Nightstar699

What the hell? New games have beter multi? What about contra? Buble boble? A good fighting game? SATURN BOMBERMAN?! I dont understand the world anymore.
So ends another chapter in the glorious legend of the Ninja... Until next time...