Your most difficult game?

[zmaster18]

I thought I'd start a little convo about what your most difficult game experience is on the Famicom.

One game that I think is just waaay too difficult is Metroid! I like the game, but the biggest flaw with it is when you die, you only start with 30 energy, no matter how many tanks you have. Because of this, I can never get anywhere unless I'm lucky and didn't die already. I've only beaten the NES version with a password for unlimited health or something.

[ncchuck]

Rockman( any one) I love the character , design everything but I teetotally stink at them, and super mario 2 just got it yesterday took an hour to beat the first level....the first level, so yea I pretty much suck

[zmaster18]

I like Rockman games too, but can't beat some of the Willy stage bosses!! And I suck at Doki Doki Panic, I can't ever get passed world 3, or world 4 without the warp.

[ncchuck]

I literally got that in today  I never played it before but in my younger days I did finish  Super Mario 2 for the NES . I hope mine works scared to try it as it seems pretty hard to find

[P]

There was another thread about this. If you really think the above mentioned games are the hardest you have played, then you should try Makai Mura or Battletoads.

I have no problem with most platform games but shmups are quite hard for me.

[zmaster18]

I have Maikaimura and that game is definitely the hardest game out there. Also played Battletoads on 2 player, had an experience just like the AVGN 

[FamilyMan]

Great Battle Cyber last few levels is damn near impossible
Ren and Stimpy
Built to win (formula one races)
Cocorun (final level)
Star Wars (Namco)
Roadman Cycle Master (later levels)
Cloud master
Gradius II
Battletoads and double dragon the ultimate team
pocahontas
Ninja Gaiden II  ( Last Level)
Ninja Gaiden III (last level)
the punisher
fighting hero
Dark man
Bart meets radioactiveman
rush n attack
ultimate air combat


to name a few I classify as my hardest.

[Nightstar699]

Final Mission, undoubtedly.

[fredJ]

I have a new "hardest famicom games".
Demon Sword - Fudou Myouou Den, the Japanese version.
I challenge any hardcore famicom gamer on the forum to try and beat it. You probably can't read swedish but you can check the videos, especially 2-1: http://japanspel.wordpress.com/2014/03/29/kamen-no-ninja-och-fudou-myououden-till-famicom/
Be prepared to die a lot.

Also played two weird famicom games recently that would be impossible without a walkthrough.
http://japanspel.blogspot.com/2014/04/hana-no-star-kaidou-and-romancia-for.html

[nerdynebraskan]

I can believe that, P. The US version of Demon Sword is pretty rough, and you get a life bar in that version.

I just beat Mission: Impossible (NES), and that is probably the toughest game I've ever beaten. Ninja Crusaders is definitely an honorable mention here, too, but it's a much shorter game to play through.

Arkanoid is definitely a beast too, because of its length, difficulty (even with a Vaus controller), and the fact that there are no legit continues in the game. Unless you're using a cheat code, you have to complete that mofo on one credit.

[Zycrow]

I wouldn't call Metroid or the Rockman games "easy," but I'd put them fairly low on the NES library's difficulty scale. The hardest game in my collection, I think, is a little FC gem called Transformers: Convoy no Nazo. It's well into kusoge territory, but I have to give props to a game where, if you don't already know what's happening, you will die immediately.

[fredJ]

The first rockman is pretty hard, from what I have heard. I haven't played it myself. The others aren't exactly super hard, no. 
To me it is mainly about endurance. Starting the game knowing "alright, first all these 8 or whatever stages, with bosses (some very hard with blaster), then some "extra" stages, then wily stages, then the bosses again, then Dr Wily " takes the air out of me.

Apparently, Transformers is beatable as long as you use the continue cheat. AVGN beat it, so it can't be super hard (although he said it was the hardest game he beat), but definitely beatable.

I once tried Holy Diver, now there's a hard game. Very few people beat it even if it has infinite continues. I somewhat admire it because it is like a work of art, but I also hate it because it is just too cruel. I won't be trying it again.

Yes, I have tried Arkanoid. Uh, games with no continues are just sucky. I can hardly make it past the first 2-3 stages even with the analog controller. Are there really people who can play these games?
Now you say there is a continue cheat, that counts to me as being somwhat legit. Just as the Konami code is somewhat legit way of beating Contra (like "easy" mode).

[Nightstar699]

Even I'll admit that continue codes count. Some games are just way too hard to be reliably completed on one credit (take Shinobi and its randomness, for example) so continuing is nothing to be ashamed of... within reason, of course. If you're continuing 30 times to complete a game, you probably should just consider getting better at it.

Also, the Rockman games are all easy, no clue why anyone would think that the original is less easy than the rest. If I had to pick one, I'd say 2 is the hardest due to having one of the most poorly designed bosses in history. (The Boobeam trap)

[nerdynebraskan]

It's rough in competitions like the Nintendo Age challenge, because continue codes are forbidden. That means someone has to beat Arkanoid on one credit, which instantly makes it one of the ten biggest chores in the entire NES catalog. Beating Transformers (FC) on one credit would be a similar nightmare.

I also don't find the Rockman/Mega Man series that rough, but I did play the crap out of them growing up. I do think the first one is the toughest of the lot, though. The Yellow Devil and Wily bosses are fairly stiff for a game without E-tanks, unless you're exploiting the pause glitch. And even the levels have a little bit of extra nastiness to them: from the number of hits required to defeat enemies like Sniper Joe and especially Big Eye, to the fact that the momentary invincibility-while-stunned won't save you from death spikes, MM1 is definitely more brutal than its sequels.

And I kind of enjoy the wall lazer boss in Mega Man 2; it's definitely original. Though I've probably only beaten it on the first try once... it's much easier to blow up the barriers, get yourself killed, and restock your Crash Bombs for the rematch after respawning.

[Ghegs]

Even I'll admit that continue codes count. Some games are just way too hard to be reliably completed on one credit (take Shinobi and its randomness, for example) so continuing is nothing to be ashamed of...

Finishing a game with continues doesn't count as having beaten it legitimately. 1CC or nothing, everything else is just practice.